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[beergirl-1]

Ok so James Neal, who is by the NHL's definition is a "repeat offender" gets ONE game for this (two separate incidents)



and Nick Backstrom, who has never been in trouble before, gets one game for this




Now if they want to give Backstrom a game for that, then fine...but to only give Neal ONE GAME for TWO different infractions.....are you kidding me????

[beergirl-1]

Ovechkin has an extremely similar hit and was given 3 games for it.



If you watch Shanaban's explanation he says he left his feet (which Neal did) principal point of contact was the head (same with Neal) and he's a repeat offender, (same as Neal)

If anyone tells me the NHL is not corrupt, here is proof positive my friends.

[racer888]

These playoffs are some of the most violent in years. The years of the broad street bullies was rough but it was mostley fights man to man or bench clearing. This year is the year of the punk, the cheap shot artist, the sucker punch and the usless ref's are blind to it all. Just wait until the second round when all the stars are injured and out. All that will be left is the thugs and it will be like watching pond hockey or beer league hocky (sorry to all my friends that play beer league) even you guy's arn't that bad. Shanny needs to wake up and put a stop to it before it goes any further

[Schennanigans]

There is always going to be fans unhappy with suspensions and discipline handed out by the NHL or more specifically Shannahan . Each case has a different set of circumstances that can and will be interpreted differently . That makes it an inconsistent hogepodge of contradicting penalties .
Is it right ? Is it fair ? those are the questions that will never be answered simply because some players are prone to more violent hits and some are just plain unlucky victims of circumstance .

I don't envy Shanny he has a difficult job to do and has to answer to everyone from the board of governors down to the fan base and we all know everyone is bias in some way or another . I myself was disgusted by the Shea Weber decision where he got a fine for blatantly attempting to injure Zetterberg I think Weber should have got at least a game suspension for that one.

So yes every fan thinks some of these suplementary disciplines handed out are biased and wrong and feel it is an attempt to affect the outcome of a series .

[youngbud]

You forgot to add the fact that, the rangers player who hit alfie got three games. Mean while Matt Carkner, an obvious thug, only got ONE game for basically jumping boyle, and raining down punches on him, I think at least 7 or 8 punches landed to the face/head, and most of those where when boyle was on the ice with carkner pinned on top of him....and ottawa says...oh Boyle did not want to defend himself or fight back so that's his problem? Give me a bloody break.

If you do not think alfredsson is faking think again! He was able to practice fully the day after and skate with his team-mates but he can't play the game? The hell with that if I was a coach it would be simple...if you are good enough to practice, you are good enough to play. Alf is clearly faking it, no question. What's more on the hit you can see him glance at the ref right before, turtle in and duck his head down and turn into the hit so that his head was made the principal point of contact, it was not a dirty hit by any means, buddy stays on his feet and if alfredsson doesnt duck like that it would be simply a great hit he finished his check and there wouldn't even be talk of suspension.

The poor guy when he found out he was out of the game was so upset he walked down the tunnel to the dressing room refusing to speak with anyone, and he picked up the water cooler and smashed it in anger and shame. I mean come on, do we really have to see things like that or watch guys get humiliated like that because the referees have their own agenda?

I agree with beer-girl the refereeing is not right. How come they crack down and call everything in the regular season, and now they seem to be content to let them play it out? I don't understand why it is not called consistently all year. Regular season and playoffs. Is the NHL corrupt? Likely so, it would not surprise me...when someone has to win and someone has to lose, there is always the potential for underhandedness.

Pete Rose gambled on ball games, don't be surprised if the same thing happens in other sports.

[racer888]

Are you sure you don't write PR releases for the NHL.

[racer888]

You forgot to add the fact that, the rangers player who hit alfie got three games. Mean while Matt Carkner, an obvious thug, only got ONE game for basically jumping boyle, and raining down punches on him, I think at least 7 or 8 punches landed to the face/head, and most of those where when boyle was on the ice with carkner pinned on top of him....and ottawa says...oh Boyle did not want to defend himself or fight back so that's his problem? Give me a bloody break.

If you do not think alfredsson is faking think again! He was able to practice fully the day after and skate with his team-mates but he can't play the game? The hell with that if I was a coach it would be simple...if you are good enough to practice, you are good enough to play. Alf is clearly faking it, no question. What's more on the hit you can see him glance at the ref right before, turtle in and duck his head down and turn into the hit so that his head was made the principal point of contact, it was not a dirty hit by any means, buddy stays on his feet and if alfredsson doesnt duck like that it would be simply a great hit he finished his check and there wouldn't even be talk of suspension.

The poor guy when he found out he was out of the game was so upset he walked down the tunnel to the dressing room refusing to speak with anyone, and he picked up the water cooler and smashed it in anger and shame. I mean come on, do we really have to see things like that or watch guys get humiliated like that because the referees have their own agenda?

I agree with beer-girl the refereeing is not right. How come they crack down and call everything in the regular season, and now they seem to be content to let them play it out? I don't understand why it is not called consistently all year. Regular season and playoffs. Is the NHL corrupt? Likely so, it would not surprise me...when someone has to win and someone has to lose, there is always the potential for underhandedness.

Pete Rose gambled on ball games, don't be surprised if the same thing happens in other sports.

LOL why would Alfie fake and potentially cost his team a chance to win the series

[Schennanigans]

These playoffs are some of the most violent in years. The years of the broad street bullies was rough but it was mostley fights man to man or bench clearing. This year is the year of the punk, the cheap shot artist, the sucker punch and the usless ref's are blind to it all. Just wait until the second round when all the stars are injured and out. All that will be left is the thugs and it will be like watching pond hockey or beer league hocky (sorry to all my friends that play beer league) even you guy's arn't that bad. Shanny needs to wake up and put a stop to it before it goes any further

After watching the Flyers and Penguins go at it I doubt Shanny can put a stop to it without suspending half of both teams and that won't work since it would basically ruin the series . Not to mention that viewing is up a full 70% in that series so the broadcasters have got to like that . I don't mind the fights myself but wow the cheap shots have got to stop and they probably will when there is as you say no one left but the thugs who actually drop the gloves and get it over with .

[racer888]

After watching the Flyers and Penguins go at it I doubt Shanny can put a stop to it without suspending half of both teams and that won't work since it would basically ruin the series . Not to mention that viewing is up a full 70% in that series so the broadcasters have got to like that . I don't mind the fights myself but wow the cheap shots have got to stop and they probably will when there is as you say no one left but the thugs who actually drop the gloves and get it over with .

I love the man to man fights where they both take their helmets off and have at it, but you hit the nail on the head when you said viewing is up 70%. So I do not expect much to change

[MaximumTaco]

You forgot to add the fact that, the rangers player who hit alfie got three games. Mean while Matt Carkner, an obvious thug, only got ONE game for basically jumping boyle, and raining down punches on him, I think at least 7 or 8 punches landed to the face/head, and most of those where when boyle was on the ice with carkner pinned on top of him....and ottawa says...oh Boyle did not want to defend himself or fight back so that's his problem? Give me a bloody break.

If you do not think alfredsson is faking think again! He was able to practice fully the day after and skate with his team-mates but he can't play the game? The hell with that if I was a coach it would be simple...if you are good enough to practice, you are good enough to play. Alf is clearly faking it, no question. What's more on the hit you can see him glance at the ref right before, turtle in and duck his head down and turn into the hit so that his head was made the principal point of contact, it was not a dirty hit by any means, buddy stays on his feet and if alfredsson doesnt duck like that it would be simply a great hit he finished his check and there wouldn't even be talk of suspension.

The poor guy when he found out he was out of the game was so upset he walked down the tunnel to the dressing room refusing to speak with anyone, and he picked up the water cooler and smashed it in anger and shame. I mean come on, do we really have to see things like that or watch guys get humiliated like that because the referees have their own agenda?

I agree with beer-girl the refereeing is not right. How come they crack down and call everything in the regular season, and now they seem to be content to let them play it out? I don't understand why it is not called consistently all year. Regular season and playoffs. Is the NHL corrupt? Likely so, it would not surprise me...when someone has to win and someone has to lose, there is always the potential for underhandedness.

Pete Rose gambled on ball games, don't be surprised if the same thing happens in other sports.

Sure yb, their arguably most clutch player and captain would rather fake an injury and get Hagelin (not Gaborik, not Richards, not Staal but HAGELIN) suspended than give his team a shot at winning, and if you don't think the Sens have a shot at winning you're either a hater, or you haven't been watching the games.

C'mon man. Alfie is not faking.

In regards to the league in general, it's shocking and alarming how deep into thuggery the League has descended this playoffs, and a lot of it falls at Shanny's feet for not responding to these kinds of hits with swifter harsher punishment. How the **** does Neal get one game for two questionable hits? Oh because he's James Neal and a star, I understand. Watch today he'll throw the book at Torres (and just to be clear, Torres does deserve thrown at him, but so does everyone else, including Neal), and everyone will say he's doing his job now because he suspended Torres, as if that's not the easiest decision in the world.

[beergirl-1]

I forgot about the Carkner one....and I'm not asking Shanaban to be a miracle worker...I thought after Campbell stepped down there would be a little more consistancy but I was wrong, it's worse now more than ever. All I'm asking is that the players are treated the same. If one guy leaves his feet while targeting a head of a player and you want to give him 5 games for it, then fine but they better damn well make sure that if another player makes the same hit they better be giving them the same treatment.

It just doesn't make any sense, especially since Weber got off scott free and Weber is one of my favorite D-man, but there's no way he shouldn't have gotten a suspension for that.

[Schennanigans]

I forgot about the Carkner one....and I'm not asking Shanaban to be a miracle worker...I thought after Campbell stepped down there would be a little more consistancy but I was wrong, it's worse now more than ever. All I'm asking is that the players are treated the same. If one guy leaves his feet while targeting a head of a player and you want to give him 5 games for it, then fine but they better damn well make sure that if another player makes the same hit they better be giving them the same treatment.

It just doesn't make any sense, especially since Weber got off scott free and Weber is one of my favorite D-man, but there's no way he shouldn't have gotten a suspension for that.

There is never going to be absolute consistency on these calls since different players have different levels of importance to a team . Suspending a top player has a larger impact on a team and a shorter suspension for them is definitely a harsher penalty for their team than losing a grinder for a longer period of suspension . I am sure although it doesn't seem fair that suspending Weber for 3 games would pretty much finish Nashville's play off run . Not to mention the money lost by the team , the broadcasters and the NHL would also be a penalty of sorts and never forget hockey is a business that needs to generate a profit to survive .
Damn I hate it when my practical side shows up and I realize business is never fair .

[MaximumTaco]

There is never going to be absolute consistency on these calls since different players have different levels of importance to a team . Suspending a top player has a larger impact on a team and a shorter suspension for them is definitely a harsher penalty for their team than losing a grinder for a longer period of suspension . I am sure although it doesn't seem fair that suspending Weber for 3 games would pretty much finish Nashville's play off run . Not to mention the money lost by the team , the broadcasters and the NHL would also be a penalty of sorts and never forget hockey is a business that needs to generate a profit to survive .
Damn I hate it when my practical side shows up and I realize business is never fair .

But then you're giving top players the excuse to run guys.

And if that top player is someone like say Chara, then he could really do some damage.

[beergirl-1]

There is never going to be absolute consistency on these calls since different players have different levels of importance to a team . Suspending a top player has a larger impact on a team and a shorter suspension for them is definitely a harsher penalty for their team than losing a grinder for a longer period of suspension . I am sure although it doesn't seem fair that suspending Weber for 3 games would pretty much finish Nashville's play off run . Not to mention the money lost by the team , the broadcasters and the NHL would also be a penalty of sorts and never forget hockey is a business that needs to generate a profit to survive .
Damn I hate it when my practical side shows up and I realize business is never fair .

Neal was also warned twice during the regular season for boarderline hits. The NHL is corrupt. Period.

[youngbud]

Because alfie is a whiny little arse, and a ***, that's why he's faking it, and I'd like to know what game some of you guys are watching, because quite frankly the new york rangers are going to wipe the floor with ottawa. You call you self a leaf's fan and you think ottawa deserves to win or has a chance to win? Give me a break their fans are still chanting leafs suck! They deserve to lose for that ignorant, pathetic display alone!

[youngbud]

BTW I don't write pr releases for the nhl racer but it would be fun All I can really say in regards to the goon factor and viewership going up is, thank you good ol' usa you got the kind of hockey brand that you wanted so I hope you are happy now, sheesh eh?

[Schennanigans]

Because alfie is a whiny little arse, and a ***, that's why he's faking it, and I'd like to know what game some of you guys are watching, because quite frankly the new york rangers are going to wipe the floor with ottawa. You call you self a leaf's fan and you think ottawa deserves to win or has a chance to win? Give me a break their fans are still chanting leafs suck! They deserve to lose for that ignorant, pathetic display alone!

You have a real hate on for the Sens , we get that but I don't see the Rangers walking away with this series just yet . I don't much like the Sens but I absolutely don't like the Rangers .
Much as I hate to agree with Sens fans the fact is the Leafs do suck but then I wear my Leafs jersey to the games at Scotia Bank place anyway just to vex the Sens fans .

[MaximumTaco]

Because alfie is a whiny little arse, and a ***, that's why he's faking it, and I'd like to know what game some of you guys are watching, because quite frankly the new york rangers are going to wipe the floor with ottawa. You call you self a leaf's fan and you think ottawa deserves to win or has a chance to win? Give me a break their fans are still chanting leafs suck! They deserve to lose for that ignorant, pathetic display alone!

I'm watching the games where two have been one goal games. The last one of which NYR scored on a lucky bounce.

I'm a Leafs fan, but I'm not a myopic one who thinks the Sens suck just because they're the Sens. They're a good young team, MUCH BETTER than ours, and they have gone toe to toe with the Rags so far, and only trail the series by one game. Ottawa absolutely has a chance to win. None of these games have been blowouts, and their defense keeps getting better and better against the Rags (4 goals allowed in game 1, then 2 in game 2, then 1 in game 3)

Also it's ignorant to chant that the Leafs Suck? Are you saying we don't suck? Because the standings would disagree with you.

[youngbud]

I tried to listen to shanny's explanation, but it is so full of b.s. I couldn't cut through it...

[youngbud]

I did not say they were not better than us, obviously I have to admit unfortunately they are right now. Do I hate the sens of course I do, what self-repsecting honest leaf fan does not? If they want to kick sand in our face and treat us like that as leaf fans fine, but if they lose this series don't come crying to me about it. I want them to lose the first round series that's no secret. They don't deserve to win when they act childish and stoop to levels like that just to prove a point.

Wearing a leafs sweater in someone else's arena is no big deal. We are not even in the playoffs against them, apparently we suck, well how funny is it that they the fans cannot get over the fact that we kicked their *** in every playoff series we ever had? They still can't get over it can they? So the question becomes who REALLY and TRULY sucks in this case?