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#21 Maplers

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 06:57 PM

Ralph Krueger is the coach that is scouting for the Canadians.. He's coached in Switzerland for years and coached the national team in the 2006 olympics.  He knows his stuff: http://www.theglobea...rticle16772847/

 

Great to have him aboard.

 

Do you think the lockout from last year might actually help the Canadians?  I'm not sure how many of these guys actually played in Europe during the lockout.   I'm pretty sure Duchesne, Nash and Tavares at least did.  that experience may help these guys on the big ice..



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:06 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Duchesne blossoms in this tournament.....  Kid has the wheels and vision to excel on the big ice..



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:01 PM

Ralph Krueger is the coach that is scouting for the Canadians.. He's coached in Switzerland for years and coached the national team in the 2006 olympics.  He knows his stuff: http://www.theglobea...rticle16772847/

 

Great to have him aboard.

 

Do you think the lockout from last year might actually help the Canadians?  I'm not sure how many of these guys actually played in Europe during the lockout.   I'm pretty sure Duchesne, Nash and Tavares at least did.  that experience may help these guys on the big ice..

I would definitely think that it didn't hurt! ;)



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:57 PM

Here are the lines from practice today.  What do you think?  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=443494

 

 

FORWARDS

Chris Kunitz - Sidney Crosby - Jeff Carter
Patrick Sharp - Jonathan Toews - Rick Nash
Patrick Marleau - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Jamie Benn - John Tavares - Patrice Bergeron
(Martin St. LouisMatt Duchene)

DEFENCE

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Jay Bouwmeester - Alex Pietrangelo
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Drew Doughty
(P.K. SubbanDan Hamhuis)

 

I'm not a huge fan... the D pairings look solid, but I'm surprised Marty isn't playing with Crosby.  I think those two would be dynamite together.  I think I'd go with Getzlaf, Perry and Tavares.. that line would be dynamite.... And maybe Benn Duchesne and Marleau.  Put Bergeron out there for faceoffs PKs.. etc....  thoughts?

 

I think Subban needs to be in the line up, last years Norris trophy winner...

Perry-Getzlaf-Nash

Kunitz-Crosby-Tavares

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Stlouis-Bergeron-Benn

 

Lines are not in any order, just lines I would try, Tavares on the wing I do not love but I felt he was the best to move, and him and Crosby be might to much on one line, but I think that could be a true top line, and I think Duschene needs to be in the lineup, I left out Carter and Marleau because they were my last two picks for the team


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:11 PM

I think Subban needs to be in the line up, last years Norris trophy winner...

Perry-Getzlaf-Nash

Kunitz-Crosby-Tavares

Sharp-Toews-Duschene

Stlouis-Bergeron-Benn

 

Lines are not in any order, just lines I would try, Tavares on the wing I do not love but I felt he was the best to move, and him and Crosby be might to much on one line, but I think that could be a true top line, and I think Duschene needs to be in the lineup, I left out Carter and Marleau because they were my last two picks for the team

I'd try Subban in Bouwmeester's spot.  I'd also try Sharp-Crosby-Tavares together.  Kunitz-Toews-Nash maybe?



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:20 PM

I'd try Subban in Bouwmeester's spot.  I'd also try Sharp-Crosby-Tavares together.  Kunitz-Toews-Nash maybe?

why?   Kunitz and Sharp were brought in for their chemistry with Toews and Crosby respectively.. switching them off seems odd *LOL*..

 

The one reason Carter is maybe a good option is because he's big and can skate and can score.. so he could create more space for Crosby....  Subban isn't the best defensively no?  I think he'll probably be a PP specialist...



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:29 PM

why?   Kunitz and Sharp were brought in for their chemistry with Toews and Crosby respectively.. switching them off seems odd *LOL*..

 

The one reason Carter is maybe a good option is because he's big and can skate and can score.. so he could create more space for Crosby....  Subban isn't the best defensively no?  I think he'll probably be a PP specialist...

Just experimenting.  I'd do a few different line rushes if the optics look good.  Bouwmeester I think may lack the footspeed for the big ice, which also makes him less effective on the shot block.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:37 PM

Just experimenting.  I'd do a few different line rushes if the optics look good.  Bouwmeester I think may lack the footspeed for the big ice, which also makes him less effective on the shot block.

 

One of the big complaints from the Turin olympics was that there was no chemistry for the team.  This is why they went with the 3 pairs of players that play with each other.  Last time they had Thornton and Marleau as well...  Problem is there isn't a lot of time to develop chemistry.  Has to be super hard for the defensemen...  Does everyone realize that we are leaving the fate of our goaltending in the hands of a Hab? :)



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:47 PM

One of the big complaints from the Turin olympics was that there was no chemistry for the team.  This is why they went with the 3 pairs of players that play with each other.  Last time they had Thornton and Marleau as well...  Problem is there isn't a lot of time to develop chemistry.  Has to be super hard for the defensemen...  Does everyone realize that we are leaving the fate of our goaltending in the hands of a Hab? :)

AND and Canucklehead. :o

 

I understand the chemistry established.  But we are well aware of what they can do together.  So I'd take SOME time see if an even greater spark could be generated.  Not 1 NHL forward line has remained fully intact anyway.  I'd be looking for intangibles.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 11:13 PM

Steve Yzerman defends NHL participation in Olympics

Tim Wharnsby - Monday Feb. 10, 2014 17:22

 

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Don't judge Canadian success solely on hockey result

 

SOCHI – A couple hours after Steve Yzerman argued the success of the entire Canadian Olympic team doesn’t hinge on the whether or not men’s hockey team wins, Alex Bilodeau successfully defended his gold in freestyle skiing moguls and his teammate Mikael Kingsbury won silver.

 

“I think it’s unfair to the rest of the Canadian Olympic team,” said the Canadian men’s hockey executive director a few hours after his arrival in Sochi.

 

“For Canadian hockey players, both men and women – and I was a player at one point – it was an honour and very exciting to be a part of the Canadian Olympic team, to be around athletes from all their sports, to sit in the village and watch a Canadian athlete come in with a gold medal and be able to see it, and talk to them, and see the joy on their face.

 

“So I want people to understand, our players are respectful of all of the other athletes here, and are proud to be part of the Canadian Olympic team. We want to win a gold medal, much like every other athlete.

 

“We can only do our part and hopefully bring home a gold medal. For every Canadian athlete, they’ve been training their entire life for this and I think it’s unfair that we detract from any of their accomplishments, regardless of what happens with our hockey team.”

 

Yzerman wasn’t blowing smoke, trying to take the pressure off his all-star club. He honestly feels this way. This is his fourth Olympic experience after the 1998 and 2002 Winter Games as a player and 2010 as a manager. He has been swept up in the Olympic spirit. He knows what it’s like to be part of a bigger team.

 

He went further on this point when he was asked if the NHL’s participation is good for the league. There has been plenty of speculation that this Olympic Games will be it because in 2018 in Pyeongchang, South Korea won’t be worth it.

 

“My opinion is yes, absolutely,” he said. “I think this is fantastic for our league. We go back to the last year, and even beyond that, how much attention this draws, how much conversation this draws. Not only in Canada, but around the world. It promotes our league. It promotes our players. I believe it’s good for our game. I believe it’s good for the NHL.

 

“It’s once every four years. I’m hopeful we can continue and go to Korea. I understand there are challenges for our league and things we’d like to improve upon with the NHL’s relationship with the IIHF, the IOC."

 

Fast start

 

The Canadian Olympic team already has won three gold medals, three silvers and a bronze in the first three days and is on a fast track for yet another brilliant Winter Games. I’ve watched hardened broadcast and print news journalists clap and cheer at a good Canadian showing this week.

 

I must admit I got a little caught up on Monday, too. I stopped by the Iceberg Sports Palace and happened to catch Charles Hamelin skate a brilliant race to win gold in the 1,500-metre short-track speed skating event. I almost cheered.

 

There is something about the Olympics. Maybe even that Hockey Night in Canada grump Glenn Healy will catch the it while he's here.

 

The Canadian Olympic team doesn’t need a gold medal from the men’s hockey team. But that doesn’t mean it takes the heat off the $160-million men, the team’s total salary if you add up the pay cheques of the 25-player roster.

 

The men’s hockey team wants to win because since the NHL’s participation, Canada has not won outside North America and no team has won back-to-back Olympic titles. That’s the motivation for Crosby and Co. this time around.

 

“Do we have more pressure than Russia,” Ryan Getzlaf said repeating a reporter’s question. “We have just as much pressure from back home. We have even more pressure inside our dressing room.”

 

Source:  http://olympics.cbc....n-olympics.html



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:37 PM

These two threads should have been moved to the main section, in my opinion..., but...

 

CANADA

 

No change in line combos today: Kunitz-Crosby-Carter. Sharp-Toews-Nash. Marleau-Getzlaf-Perry. Benn-Tavares-Bergeron. Duchene, St. Louis.

 

D-pairs also same: Keith-Weber; Bouwmeester-Pietrangelo; Vlasic-Dougthy; Hamhuis-Subban.

 

Team Canada. pic.twitter.com/QBfFkFxOT3

 

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:39 PM

Since they have two of our Leafs..and are probably one of our main opponents..

 

Team USA Twitter feed -->  https://twitter.com/USOlympic?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.twitter.com%2F2014%2Fteam-usa-off-to-olympic-winter-games-on-twitter&tw_i=426349704528416768&tw_p=tweetembed


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:52 PM

TEAM USA

 

FORWARDS 

 

BACKES

BROWN 
CALLAHAN 
KANE 
KESLER 
KESSEL 
OSHIE 
PACIORETTY 
PARISE 
PAVELSKI 
STASTNY 
STEPAN 
VAN RIEMSDYK 
WHEELER 

 

DEFENSE

 

CARLSON 
FAULK 
FOWLER
MARTIN 
MCDONAGH 
ORPIK 
SHATTENKIRK 
SUTER 

 

GOALIES

 

HOWARD
MILLER 
QUICK


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:55 PM

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:56 PM

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:47 PM

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Nice Job Seer... I think these two are going to be united and tearing it up by the end of this  tournament.  



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:22 PM

Too bad about Pacioretty.  Big blow to the U.S.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:24 PM

Nice Job Seer... I think these two are going to be united and tearing it up by the end of this  tournament.  

 

Actually.. I missed deleting things.. and had numbers that don't pertain to the Canada team posted, so thanks, Map.., but it was a bad post by me.. and I was just throwing two cents into the pot..  

 

Since we have no Leafs on the team.. it makes it less interesting to me..

 

I do hope both our men & women teams succeed, though..


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:50 PM

These two threads should have been moved to the main section, in my opinion..., but...

 

 

I figured the GDT's could be put in the main and then moved here.  These are just the general discussion threads for each team for those that want to take part.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:54 PM

I figured the GDT's could be put in the main and then moved here.  These are just the general discussion threads for each team for those that want to take part.

 

You'll have to ask Beergirl about it...  I see no reason why not, when there are no Leaf games during all of this.., but requests have been refused before over the years..  I think we had one last season, though right..?  Might have been a combined game GT.., like I did for the Marlies in some games?


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