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transient1	Re: MLB Draft	#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 0 06/09/09 19:52:57	Boras is his agent? Can't a plane crash with him in it?
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 03:51:01	What a great pick in Paxton.....I am extremely happy we picked him. Jenkins was also an excellent pick...to whoever said stop drafting pitchers in the first round....are you crazy? You don't pass over pitching. If anything, the past couple of seasons a la Marcum, McGowan, and now Litsch should tell you that. Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 03:51:49	QUOTE (Roro @ Jun 9 2009, 08:55 PM) i hope they draft James Paxton, 97 fastball, canadian 2 Good call..lol. Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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Victorqvist	Re: MLB Draft	#24	[url]	[-]
Moderator Posts: 2 06/10/09 04:07:32 Moderator	Even if one of them turns out to be a solid 2-3 guy it was worth it.
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Victorqvist	Re: MLB Draft	#25	[url]	[-]
Moderator Posts: 2 06/10/09 04:20:42 Moderator	And api you numbnuts we havent drafted a pitcher in the first round since Romero.
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api	Re: MLB Draft	#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11307 06/10/09 09:04:15	....seriously? Did we draft any other positions other than a P? Who's our best hitting prospect? Arencibia?
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 09:06:17	QUOTE (api @ Jun 10 2009, 01:04 PM) ....seriously? Did we draft any other positions other than a P? Who's our best hitting prospect? Arencibia? Umm Snider...... Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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Victorqvist	Re: MLB Draft	#28	[url]	[-]
Moderator Posts: 2 06/10/09 09:06:46 Moderator	QUOTE (api @ Jun 10 2009, 01:04 PM) ....seriously? Did we draft any other positions other than a P? Who's our best hitting prospect? Arencibia? Snider, Arencibia, Ahrens, Cooper...
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newsteenfan	Re: MLB Draft	#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 12970 06/10/09 09:12:29	And I'd rather work on getting the guys that will win games for us in the playoffs when our hitters are being shut down by star pitching. Just like you can't win without goaltending, you can't win without great pitching. Look at 92-93 for an example of a team that knew how to pitch. ######, just look at their setup guy and closer in those years.
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 09:21:07	QUOTE (DuncanMarkovOverKaberle @ Jun 10 2009, 01:12 PM) And I'd rather work on getting the guys that will win games for us in the playoffs when our hitters are being shut down by star pitching. Just like you can't win without goaltending, you can't win without great pitching. Look at 92-93 for an example of a team that knew how to pitch. ######, just look at their setup guy and closer in those years. Yep when Ward and the Terminator came out, you could pretty much turn off the TV knowing the Jays had won another one. Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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loxcane1	Re: MLB Draft	#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 19461 06/10/09 13:07:13	our rotation was sick then Morris Guzman Key Leiter Cone wtf? How do you beat that?
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majqvist	Re: MLB Draft	#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 0 06/10/09 13:11:18	taking the best available players could open the door for trades in the future. If we have like 6 great pitchers, MLB level, all starters. We don't need them all so we'd be willing to trade them to teams who do and in return, we get players of equal value. Its better to take best available then what you need, because if best available is better than what you need, you can trade what you got for what you need in a year or 2 and get a better player at the position you need than you would have drafted. FGSC HOST,23 Points,16 HNIC(WINNER) points QUOTE (majingir @ Aug 4 2008, 11:50 PM) ~~I will get to brag about me predicting me bragging in the future.~~ ~~Leafs will have 81 points to finish the year.~~(EXACTLY 81 POINTS!) ~~They will have a player or 2 demanding to be traded at the deadline~~(2 roster guys left at the deadline) ~~Fletcher will be replaced as GM before the seasons done~~(Burke new GM!) ~~Something will happen that will lead even bigger speculation of Burke being our GM(most likely something Burke says)~~(Burke no longer Ducks GM) Toskala will get the Halladay treatment(great player,good gaa(era in mlb) good sv%(k's in mlb) but win-loss record is terrible thanks to his team)(DIDN'T happen) ~~Blake will lead the team in Points~~ The Leafs will have 3 players at the all star game(only 2 players made it) ~~There will be lots of people who disagrees with at least 1 thing listed above~~
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loxcane1	Re: MLB Draft	#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 19461 06/10/09 13:12:41	especially in baseball where 90% of picks will take AT LEAST 3 years... your needs now aren't likely to be the same in three years.
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#34	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 13:52:52	QUOTE (loxcane @ Jun 10 2009, 05:12 PM) especially in baseball where 90% of picks will take AT LEAST 3 years... your needs now aren't likely to be the same in three years. And it's not like FA pitchers are just floating around without jobs and the teams who have pitchers even unproven are likely to hold on to them...see Glaus 4 Lincecum. Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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loxcane1	Re: MLB Draft	#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 19461 06/10/09 13:57:17	yeah, you could never ever ever ever have too much pitching... I mean if in 5 years two of these kids pan out and we already have Halladay(fingers crossed), Marcum, McGowan and Litsch, it gives us the ability to move something for the bat we'll most likely be missing... I mean that's not even considering the guys we already have. It's just good business to draft pitching. There's always a good bat on the free agent market that you could get for a DECENT price. big bats don't get overpaid like big arms, unless it's a special situation(or a special kind of idiot handing out the deal... see Andruw Jones)
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api	Re: MLB Draft	#36	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11307 06/10/09 14:11:38	Ahrens is hitting .207 this year in single A, Cooper will be a poor mans Overbay. Arencibia and Snider are our only GOOD bats. You know, you'll need some offense to go along with some pitching. You can't win 0-0.
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majqvist	Re: MLB Draft	#37	[url]	[-]
Posts: 0 06/10/09 14:15:18	QUOTE (loxcane @ Jun 10 2009, 05:12 PM) especially in baseball where 90% of picks will take AT LEAST 3 years... your needs now aren't likely to be the same in three years. Jays have needed some top starters for quite some years now and good DH and long term catcher for many years also. Name the last DH and C the Jays had for at least 4 straight years. FGSC HOST,23 Points,16 HNIC(WINNER) points QUOTE (majingir @ Aug 4 2008, 11:50 PM) ~~I will get to brag about me predicting me bragging in the future.~~ ~~Leafs will have 81 points to finish the year.~~(EXACTLY 81 POINTS!) ~~They will have a player or 2 demanding to be traded at the deadline~~(2 roster guys left at the deadline) ~~Fletcher will be replaced as GM before the seasons done~~(Burke new GM!) ~~Something will happen that will lead even bigger speculation of Burke being our GM(most likely something Burke says)~~(Burke no longer Ducks GM) Toskala will get the Halladay treatment(great player,good gaa(era in mlb) good sv%(k's in mlb) but win-loss record is terrible thanks to his team)(DIDN'T happen) ~~Blake will lead the team in Points~~ The Leafs will have 3 players at the all star game(only 2 players made it) ~~There will be lots of people who disagrees with at least 1 thing listed above~~
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#38	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 14:16:59	QUOTE (api @ Jun 10 2009, 06:11 PM) Ahrens is hitting .207 this year in single A, Cooper will be a poor mans Overbay. Arencibia and Snider are our only GOOD bats. You know, you'll need some offense to go along with some pitching. You can't win 0-0. Some of those bats are in the line-up - Lind and Hill. A line-up that has Lind, Snider, Hill, and Arencibia is a heckuva start. Once the current loudmouth GM is gone, free agency is a possibility and as someone mentioned a surplus of pitching is much more attractive from a trade perspective than hitting. Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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api	Re: MLB Draft	#39	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11307 06/10/09 14:24:03	Hill is already 27? 28? He's not considered a "prospect" or a "youngster" anymore, Lind is already 26. If the player is any good, he should produce at the age of 24. I repeat, having 2 GOOD hitting prospects is nothing to be proud of. Check out other teams' hitting prospects compared to the Jays. Granted, their pitching prospects probably don't compare to the Jays' because of the amounts of pitchers they've selected.
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sdexceed	Re: MLB Draft	#40	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13412 06/10/09 14:26:13	QUOTE (api @ Jun 10 2009, 06:24 PM) Hill is already 27? 28? He's not considered a "prospect" or a "youngster" anymore, Lind is already 26. If the player is any good, he should produce at the age of 24. I repeat, having 2 GOOD hitting prospects is nothing to be proud of. Check out other teams' hitting prospects compared to the Jays. Granted, their pitching prospects probably don't compare to the Jays' because of the amounts of pitchers they've selected. And I repeat, " as someone mentioned a surplus of pitching is much more attractive from a trade perspective than hitting. " Tell me who's going to get you more on the market right now, Romero or Snider...thank you very much case closed. Quityerbitchin as they say in hillbilly central. Thanks To StickofWellwood for the image.
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